The HSLDA's Forgotten InfoWars Appearances

From 2002 to 2007, the HSLDA appeared as guests on Alex Jones’ infamous radio show, InfoWars. Here are their episodes.

Mar 24, 2025

Throughout the 2000s, the Home School Legal Defense Association made multiple guest appearances on Alex Jones’ notorious radio show, InfoWars. That radio show and all of its assets are currently in the process of being sold off and auctioned to pay damages awarded to the parents of the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting. Jones and InfoWars manufactured and promoted conspiracies about the murdered children for years, resulting in harassment campaigns against the parents of those murdered.

The InfoWars guest list of over two decades includes some of the worst humanity has to offer. Beyond guests that lied about Sandy Hook parents, the show has hosted everything from health guru scam artists, to white supremacists, holocaust deniers, and groyper Nazis. Today, HSLDA can officially be added to that list, moving them out of hiding and placing them in their rightful place in the public record.

Alex Jones has been telling listeners to homeschool their children since the show’s inception in the late 1990s, often describing schools with a now common sentiment of “indoctrination factories” where children are asked to spy on their parents. Jones’ hot-tempered conspiratorial rants about Child Protective Services and “government training facilities” made him an influential mouthpiece in the Homeschooling movement. Jones often recommended callers and listeners to become members of the HSLDA in addition to taking their kids out of schools.

I reached out multiple times to the HSLDA for comment. Over email, I contacted both their designated media inquiries inbox as well as president of the organization Jim Mason, as he represented the HSLDA as a guest in 2007. I also stopped by their booth at the South Carolina Great Homeschool Convention and asked to have my information passed along. Finally, I reached out to Michael Farris, former president and founder. The only response was from Farris, who said he “has no knowledge” of HSLDA’s relationship with InfoWars.

What are the Details?

There are four available episodes where the HSLDA is a featured guest.
HSLDA features across a five year period from 2002 to 2007.
Jim Mason, Senior Legal Counsel for HSLDA at the time, features on the last known appearance in 2007.
Chris Klicka is the most regular representative, featuring on three of the four known episodes from 2002 to 2003.
Klicka was Senior Counsel for HSLDA in that time period, and passed away in 2009.
There is at least one additional appearance, if not more. Jones references a previous guest appearance in the first 2002 episode.

What’s in the Episodes?

Well, it’s Alex Jones. Chris Klicka, one of HSLDA’s most insane attorneys, gets along with Jones swimmingly. They have a natural chemistry and don’t find much to disagree over. The two talk about Child Protective Services stealing children to give to the homosexuals, and at one point Klicka gives a personal anecdote about trying to cast a demon out of a social worker. That the two find common ground on the regular demonization of CPS is fitting, considering both have a record of defending child abusers.

Around the same time of the last episode appearance, Jones had a follower of child predator Bill Gothard on his show. Jones told the guest his kids were being taken by the state “because you homeschool,” and “children [are] being kidnapped by CPS for rape rooms.” The guest was arrested for stalking his kids two years later. This happened concurrently as the HSLDA was representing a couple who pulled their mentally challenged son out of public school. Those parents would later lock that disabled child in a cage with his own feces.

Current HSLDA president Jim Mason, one of HSLDA’s most sane attorneys, seems uncomfortable by Jones’ antics and flair (lying). Mason’s October 2007 appearance is possibly the last, as the organization starts to pivot to having a less (publicly) radical message around this time.

We have collected the episodes, edited for commercial breaks, and placed them in one collection available on YouTube here. An audio file of all episodes and a PDF file containing the transcription can be downloaded at the bottom of the page.